still a threat, yemen, somalia, the threat as we speak in mali. >> former state department officials say that the instability in mali and algeria is directly related to the decisi to intervene in libya and overthrow khaddafi, whose african mercenaries fled back home. >> clear that the collapse of the regime was the flame that sparked all this. you could argue it might have happened anyway, but clearly having that influx of heavily armed and well trained fighters going into countries that had existing problems exacerbated those problems. lou: at the end of the bush administration the state department considered mali a success story, a model of democcacy, but the instability that came out of libya and the foreign fighters a return to the region after the zero iraqi war ended has caused a fight against haiti to move down in north africa. lou: thank you. but his national security correspondent. joing us now, the council on foreign relations, fox is contributor. former cia operative and that of the tracking unit michael sawyer. good to have you all with this. let me begin with ou. the lee